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Its 'California Adventure' concept comes into question
By Russ Britt, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 12:15 AM ET Nov. 25, 2002


ANAHEIM, Calif. (CBS.MW) -- Walt Disney Co. is betting small insects and a big building will help its troubled California Adventure theme park find a following nearly two years after it opened at a cost of $650 million.

The entertainment giant is trying new tactics to get its latest U.S. theme park out of the doldrums that have kept attendance to less than half its capacity, even on the busiest days. Among the new attractions are a playland based on the movie, "A Bug's Life," and its "Tower of Terror" ride used in one of Disney's Florida parks.

Turning things around, however, at California Adventure may be a tall order, and some experts say only a complete overhaul would be the answer.

Although Disney (DIS: news, chart, profile) won't disclose official numbers, California Adventure's attendance is projected by outsiders to be at least 5 to 10 percent below last year's figures. Traffic at the adjacent Disneyland Park is expected to be flat or higher.

Internal Disney documents obtained by CBS.MarketWatch.com show that earlier this year, California Adventure was well off its 2001 numbers, and far below the park's 38,000-person capacity.

"I think they're going to have to reinvent the concept," said Dennis Spiegel, a theme park consultant. "When you miss the concept, you've got to do more than add little fillers to the gaps."

Disney's newest theme park is raising eyebrows like no other in the company's history. While the company has had problems before at its parks in Paris and Florida, this is the first time a venue's general concept has been questioned.

Insiders have nicknamed the new Anaheim location "Disney's Corporate Adventure," and the joke going around company circles is that it made more money as a parking lot for the adjacent Disneyland Park.

Cynthia Harris, Disneyland's president, insists California Adventure's business and theme are sound. Citing company surveys that show favorable reaction from patrons, Harris says the West Coast's second-most visited theme park.

"It's a brand new product. We've only been open a short time," she said. "The guest satisfaction ratings are probably higher than most new parks we have."

'Westcot' was planned

The park is a kind a spoof of the Golden State -- with a Disney touch. But it's quite a departure from the images usually conjured by the company's other, more popular parks.

While Disney's "Magic Kingdom" parks are chock full of rides, California Adventure was built with a much larger number of retail shops and restaurants and fewer conventional amusement park attractions.

Instead of thrills, chills and spills, patrons were shown how tortillas and wine are made, what it's like to be a Disney cartoonist and offered lunch served by, well, someone who looks like their favorite soap star.

Although cartooning seemed to catch on, the Soap Opera Bistro closed, and the winery, once operated by Robert Mondavi, is in the hands of another operator. The tortilla factory still stands but draws only modest interest.

At one point, Disney had planned that the California Adventure site would be home to a "Westcot" facility, based on its popular "Epcot Center" in Orlando, Fla. That fell by the wayside, however, as budgets for the new park were trimmed.

Sticking with concept

Disney seems to be sticking with the California concept. The company plans to tweak it with some attractions designed to address recent barbs.

Last month came "A Bug's Land," a menagerie of rides for the toddler and post-toddler set. It is a response to criticism that the park doesn't have enough attractions for small children.

External estimates say "A Bug's Land" has helped with attendance somewhat in recent weekends. "It is a hit with the crowd that we're trying to appeal to," said Disneyland's Harris. "We are incredibly enthused about our attendance at both parks."

"Tower of Terror," due to open in 2004, is designed to address concerns the park is short of so-called "E-ticket" attractions that draw large numbers of visitors.

There also will be a live production of "Aladdin" similar to its Broadway versions of "Beauty and the Beast" and "The Lion King" in a new theater. The company is planning to bring in Broadway-caliber talent to star in and produce the show in a new theater where the Soap Opera Bistro stood.

But analysts wonder how Disney could be pleased with attendance, given the lower numbers. They add the price of admission remains too high. Patrons pay the same $45 they would to get into the much-larger Disneyland. A one-day pass for both parks costs $69.

Growing pains

To be sure, California Adventure has gone through the growing pains associated with many of Disney's parks. But some observers say it's worse this time.

One of them is John Cora, Disney's former vice president in charge of resort development, who was responsible for putting in many of the attractions at the new park. He left the company shortly after it opened in February 2001, and now is a theme park consultant based in Oceanside, Calif. Cora says he had an amicable parting with Disney.

Cora says Disney's highest priority in developing the park was to keep costs down.

"That was the bottom line," he said, adding he differed with management over how much and where to spend money on the park.

California Adventure, the adjacent Grand Californian hotel and the Downtown Disney shopping district cost a total $1.4 billion. The park itself cost an estimated $650 million. By contrast, the new DisneySea park in Tokyo -- paid for by licensees -- went for roughly $3 billion.

Heavy retail

Cora says that the underlying problem is that to round out the park, California Adventure had to put in an inordinately large number of high-end restaurants, stores, and other retail outlets. Patrons balked at the prospect of spending $45 to get in, and then spend more on goods and food.

That was the influence of former Disney parks chief Paul Pressler coming through, Cora says. Pressler had extensive training in the retail sector and left Disney to become chief executive of Gap Inc. (GPS: news, chart, profile) in September.

"Part of the problem is Paul came from retail. He thought retail and still thinks retail," Cora said. "We spent enough money overbuilding retail and food (operations) to add three or four more major attractions to the park."

Some of those facilities are closed or have been replaced. Along with the Soap Opera Bistro and Mondavi winery, Wolfgang Puck operated a restaurant in the heart of the park for a time but eventually left. Disney is operating another restaurant there now.

Cora, however, supports the park's theme.

"I think it's a good theme. It's what you do with that theme," he said.

The projections for lower attendance come despite the fact the park was in existence only 11 months last year. Consultant Spiegel says the park should have built up enough of a clientele between then and now to boost the numbers.

"Your second year, you should get the slide from your first year and an increase (in traffic)," he said.

Disney records show that that earlier this year, the fall in traffic was steep. For the week of March 17, attendance was 28 percent below that of the same week in 2001. Other weeks in mid-April, early May and late May show that attendance was off anywhere between 15 and 27 percent from the prior year's levels.

During those weeks, weekday attendance averaged 8,772 and weekend attendance averaged 14,959. It is believed that attendance ticked up recently via the introduction of "A Bug's Land," but still will leave the overall numbers down for the year.

Mostly local

A general downturn in tourism often is blamed for much of Disney's theme park woes, especially at its Florida facilities, which rely heavily on airline traffic for business. The woeful state of the economy figures into the equation, plus a lingering fear over airline travel.

But half the business at Disney's California parks comes from people in the local region. Moreover, Disneyland's attendance never slipped more than 7 percent during those time periods, according to internal reports. For two of those weeks, Disneyland's attendance was down less than 1 percent.

A visit to both parks on the Columbus Day holiday showed that traffic was much higher at Disneyland than at California Adventure.

Line waits at Disneyland ranged from 20 minutes for Star Tours on up to one hour for the Haunted Mansion and Splash Mountain.

At the same time -- around 5 p.m. the lines were 5 to 10 minutes for every California Adventure attraction except "Soarin' Over California," a simulated hang-glider ride. That wait was 45 minutes.

Underlying problems

To get California Adventure numbers up, Disney will have to acknowledge the theme needs to be reworked, experts say. Much of its business is local, and there are few park visitors who want an education on their own state, analysts say.

"In order to turn this around, they have to turn their back on the concept," said Jim Hill, a longtime Disney observer who operates a Web site devoted to company news. He says there are a number of proposals under consideration to add new attractions at the park, all of which will result in the California theme getting shunted aside.

"Everything that's on the table is stuff that's fun to ride. It has nothing to do with the California theme," Hill said.

Hill believes Disney is negotiating with computer animation specialist Pixar (PIXR: news, chart, profile) on devoting pieces of the park to themes from such joint Disney-Pixar film ventures as "Toy Story" and "Monsters Inc."

Disneyland's Harris confirmed that the company is negotiating with Pixar's John Lasseter on several attractions.

Another possibility is an "Ursula Spinner," based on the evil squid from "Little Mermaid," Hill says. Disney executives, he adds, are revisiting all the ideas submitted for the park before it was built to see if there are any possibilities for changes.

Russ Britt is the Los Angeles Bureau Chief for CBS.MarketWatch.com.
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Wow, even though I've never been out there I can imagine how one would be a little disappointed to pay 45 dollars to go shopping and ride a few rides. I mean I'm sure there are some attractions but when you can stay at home and shop it takes away from the lustre.
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I think they would be smart for the time being to lower the price of admission to get attendance up. Take out some of the restaurants and shops and add rides. I think the theme is fine though. An Ursula spinner could be part of Paradise Pier. Soaring Over California always is crowded as it is a great ride. They need more great rides like it. Tower of Terror and Rockin Roller Coaster will be great additions and having Toy Story or Monsters Inc stuff will be great too.
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Old 12-02-2002, 10:50 PM
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I go there all the time and I have noticed that DCA has gotten LARGER crowds, but now they just need to keep adding more attractions.
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Old 12-07-2002, 12:51 AM
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Although more attractions and themed areas might be key for DCA's extended appealing to the crowds, I believe it's just the right sidze with Flik's Fun Fair added already. I've noticed a defnate climb this year in atendance (on the fri after thanksgivng) then last year's atendance (this year, Screamin' had an avg wait time on that friday of about 35 minutes. last year, Screamin' had an avg wait on that friday of about 20 minutes). Keep in mind, they were runing the same #of cars (5), with the same # of stations being used (2) both dates
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But if you notice there are not that many rides and that they still have a L-A-R-G-E Space to work with.
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Disneyland1955 said:But if you notice there are not that many rides and that they still have a L-A-R-G-E Space to work with.
this is true. keep in mind however, Disneyland Park opened with the same number of attractions as DCA did (18). DCA already added FFF (another 4 or 5 attractions), and ToT will give us at least 23. However, you are correct about the space. DCA could always expand and take over the Timon Lot completely. That would give them most likely a total area of over 100 acres.
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:mEars: I can see both sides here but all in all DCA was very well planned out. It represents California beautifully. To overcrowd it with rides would take away from what it was built to be, a tribute to California. I would really hate to see DCA become filled with rides. I could go up the street to KBF if all I wanted was to go on rides. I go to DLR for the Disney magic that is not to be found at regular amusement parks.
I guess time alone will tell, we all know that Soap Opera Bristo did close. But I have not heard of any other restaurant inside DCA that will. ToT will not be complete for some time yet & RRC will be completed after that.
For those who are there on a regular basis there is with out a doubt a noticeable increase in attendance. I sometimes will walk in & if the wait is more that 20 min I walk on by because I know I will be back in a few days.
Since the prices have already been dropped I do not expect them to be dropped again. Though I am sure they will continue to offer specials such as the current 2 days for $59.00 that is going on at this time.
Also keep in mind that there is still a strong possibility of a third park somewhere in the future. I think that we will see more changes at DL over the next 2 to 3 years then at DCA. Several are already under construction. :mEars:
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Dca shows that disney can't even run its good park anymore. Over in japan we halve the success that is Disneysea. Now to fix dca since opening the only big ride we have gotten is TOT. In Disneysea which didn’t need saving in the first place, they are getting TOT(which already looks better then he DCA version) and Raging spirits(indoor coaster with special effects) It's time Disney looked at Tokyo Disney for an example. Though i enjoy DCA as evident by my name, i do realize that for the Disney company it has been a failure. With’s time Disney stopped working for money and stated working to put smiles on peoples faces.
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Nothing wrong with DCA

As an opening day cast member let me say that what hurts DCA are the type of guests that visit the california parks vs. the florida ones. There is a real difference in the type of visitor - in FL its a vacation destination for most, in CA its a day outing. This attitude effects how the park is recieved.

It is a great park and well worth the price of admission. Disney is about more than how many 'rides' one can go on.
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I enjoyed DCA but i don't think they have enough attractions that are worth waiting in a long line for
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I agree with you mad hatter Disney is more then just how many rides one can get on, and that’s where dca fails. The theming so bland and uninspired. Disney sea another ark that did not open with many attractions (more then dca though) has amazing the themeing all though the park! Why couldn’t Disney have put that kind of money into dca. Oh and though it may seem like I am bashing the park, i do really love dca, as its a great place to hang out in with friends.
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DCAFAN you seemed to have hit the nail on the head. As far as the spending difference, Disney actually paid for DCA, whereas Oriental Land Company owns the license (and the reclaimed land Toykyo Disneyland & DisneySea sit on). It was OLC that told Disney spend whatever it takes. I have even read reports that during construction of DisneySea OLC was sending memos to spend more in certain details as they were being built. And from the photos, it is magnificent! They honestly do not have that many more rides, or at least E-ticket rides, but when the whole park comes together like that, it’s true Disney Magic. We all know what WDI is capable of, DisneySea is a shining example, they just need the proper funding, and from all accounts DCA didn’t get it. I don’t know what the complaints are about the Paradise Pier section, it seems there may be some fun rides there. But it also seems the Hollywood Pictures section was not fully developed at all! ToT should have been built from the start, and so too perhaps RnRC. It looks like they did a nice job on the Grizzly rapids ride and Calif. Soarin’ is a hit, but as you say, theming is important. When I heard CA theme, I thought SF cable cars, or bring back the famous LA Red Line as seen in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, something about the gold rush/ mine trains etc. You can stick with the color & history of California, just do it right. It’s like the debate now over 2d animation vs. CG, if you put out a bad story, I don’t care if its 2d, 3d or 10d, a dud is a dud is a dud! Its not the themes fault, or the animation styles fault… it’s the story and the effort and the money that is put into it. As a fan of Disney though, I do hope they will fix the problems out there, the good folks of SoCal deserve better.
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I really like DCA, but IMO the "generic" rides on the pier are it's downfall.
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I love all of the rides at DCA and Paradise Pier is my favorite land its where I spend most of my time when I'm there.
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